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greetings citizens and welcome to

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I'm Jason McClellan thanks for hanging

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out with me as you probably assumed I

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love talking about UFOs as someone who

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is incredibly fascinated by strange

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things and the mysteries of the universe

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I'm constantly intrigued by the UFO

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phenomenon for the most part the

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established pop-culture idea of a UFO is

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a physical spacecraft piloted by someone

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from an extraterrestrial civilization

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but plenty of researchers and authors

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have explored additional possibilities

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too now of course UFO doesn't mean

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extraterrestrial a UFO by definition is

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something simply that's in the sky and

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can't be identified at the time it's

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seen when we consider an

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extraterrestrial explanation for a UFO

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sighting however some of the

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alternatives to piloted spacecraft that

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researchers have put forward are

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extraterrestrial drones some sort of

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remotely controlled alien reconnaissance

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vehicle an intelligent flying robot

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alien and even a variation on the idea

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of a piloted craft a spaceship flown by

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someone but not originating or even

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fully existing in our dimension some of

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the ideas are a bit complex and probably

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a bit of a stretch but you never know

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however one idea that is quite

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conceivable in my opinion is the idea

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that some UFOs might be life forms that

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live in the sky you might think that

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sounds a little out there but think

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about this scientists have identified

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roughly 2 million species of life on

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Earth and scientists estimate that

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millions more out there waiting to be

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discovered the International Institute

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for species exploration says that

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approximately 18,000 new species are

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identified every year yeah I know there

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are a lot of remote jungle locations

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where lots of new life is discovered

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every year but my mind always goes to

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the ocean

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that's just an entire alien world right

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here on our own planet seventy percent

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of our world is covered by ocean and get

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this according to the National Oceanic

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and Atmospheric Administration we've

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only explored approximately 20% of the

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ocean that's just incredible to think

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about that 80% of that immense water

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world that covers 70% of our planet is a

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big unknown so back to the idea that our

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skies could be home to some type of life

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it's safe to assume that there are many

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more life forms inhabiting this planet

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that have yet to be discovered with this

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assumption that our planet contains many

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undiscovered creatures it becomes easier

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to entertain the possibility that some

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UFOs in the sky could be undiscovered

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life-forms this isn't a new idea author

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and historian Trevor James constable is

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certainly a pioneer of the theory that

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many UFOs are actually living beings or

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sky creatures as he calls them in his

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book sky creatures living UFOs constable

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details the research he conducted on

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these creatures and describes them as

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quote amoeba-like life-forms existing in

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the plasma state being a UFO researcher

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and someone who enjoys skywatching

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i've spent considerable time steering up

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into the vast open sky I've certainly

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seen lots of peculiar things and I

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consider myself pretty lucky to have

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seen a dozen or so weird aerial objects

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that I couldn't identify have I ever

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seen something that I thought could be

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some sort of atmospheric being well

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in January of 2009 I went to Mexico City

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to investigate a photographer named

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Arturo Robles Hill who routinely

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photographed incredible looking things

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in the sky most commonly these things

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that look like snakes or worms as they

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wiggle through the sky

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now to most people myself included most

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of these look like obvious balloon

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arches you know dozens and dozens of

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helium-filled balloons tethered together

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to form fun columns or arches used at

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weddings and parties things like that at

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the time this photographer was on the

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payroll of high-profile

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TV journalists Jaime Masson who is a

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controversial figure in the UFO field

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because of this connection people were

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even more skeptical of these photos so I

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was excited to go spend some time with

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Arturo to see if I could get a sense of

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whether this guy was participating in

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sensationalizing balloon photos or if he

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was really lucky enough to see truly

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mysterious aerial phenomena on a regular

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I arrived at Arturo's home early in the

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morning and we made our way to the

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building's rooftop that's where he

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claimed to observe all the mysterious

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objects in the sky I was incredibly

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fortunate to have it my disposal some

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pretty kick-ass equipment that included

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a Nikon d3x a 24 and a half megapixel

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digital SLR camera which was Nikon's

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flagship camera at the time and a

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monstrous Sigma ultra telephoto zoom

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lens if something wanted to show up I

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was ready to photograph it hours of sky

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watching past with nothing but a steady

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stream of airline traffic in the sky if

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you've never done any serious guy

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watching it's pretty boring and requires

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a hell of a lot of patience I really was

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about to give up but then I heard Arturo

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shout I see something I didn't see what

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he was pointing at so I grabbed some

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binoculars and with the binoculars I

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could see something but it was barely

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visible

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so it was time to break out the big guns

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I jumped behind the camera and tried to

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point it in the direction of the UFO I

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have to mention this about the camera

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setup remember how I said the signal

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lens was monstrous I don't think what

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you're imagining when I say that can

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come close to how big this length

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actually was this lens weighed more than

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34 pounds and was more than 28 inches

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long it looked more like a military

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weapon than a camera lens so because of

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its size I needed help operating the

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camera set up one person to control and

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aim the lens on the tripod and one to

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control the shutter on the camera when I

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jumped behind the camera I focused the

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lens and began snapping photos when I

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saw on the cameras monitor was unlike

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anything I had ever seen before

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I could clearly see this extremely high

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altitude object on the screen and what

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it look like to me was a jellyfish

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swimming through the sky this thing was

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translucent and it changed both shape

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and color yellow white red green and

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blue the yellow and white pulsing colors

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were likely just the sun's reflection

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off this white object as it moved and

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yeah you can see other colors and

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reflections too but it looked incredible

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in real time this UFO was spherical in

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shape and had an appendage that looked

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like a fiery glowing tail the sphere

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portion of the UFO looked like it had

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vanes or like a cranial membrane which

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definitely added to its biological

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parents this thing moved through the sky

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and was only visible for a moment the

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translucent object faded outta

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visibility right before my eyes becoming

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completely transparent and just

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to this day I can't fully explain what I

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observed in the sky above Mexico City it

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certainly led me to explore the

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possibility that Trevor James constable

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sky critters exist though I included

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this story and its accompanying photos

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in the now-defunct

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open minds magazine back in 2010 when I

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look at those photos today all I can see

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is a research balloon it really does

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look like a research balloon and most of

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the movements and behavior I observed

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are pretty consistent with research

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balloons mostly but although I

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acknowledge this I can't completely

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ignore what I saw with my own eyes

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seeing this high altitude object up

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close in real time man the photos just

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don't do it justice that being said

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again I think the best explanation for

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what I photograph that day was a balloon

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but as an objective researcher I always

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keep an open mind and leave the door

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open for other possibilities

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what about Arturo

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well my hours of staring at the sky on

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that rooftop on his building in Mexico

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City gave me time to get to know Arturo

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just a little bit and I've got to say I

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really have no way of knowing how honest

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the guy is or if he is the type of

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person who would perpetrate a hoax I

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just know that he seemed like a humble

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kind man who was soft-spoken and

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friendly I got the impression that he

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was genuinely mystified and curious

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about the things he photographed as for

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life in the sky

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you bet I believe there's some type of

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undiscovered creatures in our atmosphere

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we live on a big strange planet and

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there's still so much we don't know

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about it that's all for this episode of

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